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Posted 8/14/19

As life-long Democrats, we are writing this letter to call attention to the circumstances of a friend and neighbor who has endured with considerable grace multiple episodes of harassment and petty …

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As life-long Democrats, we are writing this letter to call attention to the circumstances of a friend and neighbor who has endured with considerable grace multiple episodes of harassment and petty vandalism in our community, solely because she is a supporter of Donald Trump. We believe that the founding fathers of our nation envisioned a society where minority views were protected against “the tyranny of the majority.” We also believe that while our nation as a whole has yet to fully realize that lofty goal, communities like ours can be leaders in that effort.

We envision a Port Townsend where all voices are welcomed respectfully, and listening and civil discourse take priority over bullying and self-righteous monologues.

May it be so.

Tom Chambers and Dorothy Hollenbeck
Port Townsend

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Patricia Durbin

Thank you!

I've had to put up a red flag to even some of my closest friends that I will not engage in ANY political discussion. All civil discourse has been lost it seems, and I find it easier to not discuss anything than tolerate the violent outbursts that usually ensue.

So sad.

Wednesday, August 14
Justin Hale

"I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend." - Thomas Jefferson to William Hamilton, April 22, 1800

Wednesday, August 14
Tom Camfield

So a supporter of Donald Trump is harassed by the "tyranny of the majority?" The majority in D. C. right now is republican and the tyranny being dealt out freely is by the likes of Donald and Mitch McConnell. A good example of the tyrannical abuse of power at the moment is Donald's convincing Israel to not allow a visit by two members of the U. S. Congress (women of color) who have been critical of him.

Thursday, August 15
Justin Hale

LOL, of course Tom characterizes President Trump voicing his opinion as "tyrannical abuse of power " I say good for Trump, Omar and Tlaib are no friends of Israel, why would Israel want them? And why should the American taxpayers pay for their trip?

Thursday, August 15
Tom Camfield

Yeah, that's our big problem on the world scene right now. Should these two members of Congress be allowed to visit Israel and Palestine. What on earth does Donald Trump think these women will do over there? Bad mouth him to a few people—or perhaps get an on-the-ground look at reality and bring it home to tell the public about it? His problem is that he has to display his personal power over anyone who disagrees in the slightest bit with him. And if he can tie them to the Democratic party, all the better.

So Donald's now in charge of world travel. Not only will he block Muslims from entering this country, he'll block one of them from revisiting her parents' home land, even though she's been elected to the U. S. Congress. He's the one who wanted to send these women back to the lands of their origin (like he being deported to Germany) but he doesn't want them just visiting there.

It gets more ridiculous the longer one looks at it all. This is not the United States of Trump.

Friday, August 16
Justin Hale

"Should these two members of Congress be allowed to visit Israel and Palestine." ..... Not according to Israeli law, "The Israeli Prime Minister’s Office stated today: “Israeli law prohibits the entry into Israel of those who call for and work to impose boycotts on Israel, as do other democracies that prohibit the entry of people who seek to harm the country.” (https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israel-denies-rep-omar-and-rep-talib-visit/)

I know that the biased agenda driven MSM want's to blame Trump but in reality the Israeli government was just enforcing it's law, and when the Israeli government was willing to compromise with Talibs visit with conditions she rejected them.

Trump wrote "It would show great weakness if Israel allowed Rep. Omar and Rep.Tlaib to visit. They hate Israel & all Jewish people, & there is nothing that can be said or done to change their minds. Minnesota and Michigan will have a hard time putting them back in office. They are a disgrace!"........Are you going to say that the POTUS isn't welcome to his opinion/free speech?

Saturday, August 17
TomCamfield

Fair enough article to which you provided a link. But even that writer questioned why Trump had to get so personally involved. Donald seemingly found it necessary to put words in Israel's mouth. Of course it didn't hurt that his targets were Democrats—that he could attempt to portray as the overall face of the Democratic party. And OMG, they're Muslims!

Donald: "They hate Israel & all Jewish people, & there is nothing that can be said or done to change their minds. Minnesota and Michigan will have a hard time putting them back in office. They are a disgrace!.” And we all know how accurately he always portrays things—as he sees them through his Trumpifying prism.

So what's new at the Mexican border, Donald? Or with health care and drug prices for that matter, or with your ongoing anti-environmental oil-drilling initiatives. Or pollution . . . a deteriorating fresh-water supply, dying sea life . . . homelessness . . . the sanctity of our election process . . .

And with a $716.000,000,000 defense budget, let's by all means concentrate on the damage to our country that might be wreaked by these two women's visit to Palestine via Israel.

Saturday, August 17
Justin Hale

I don't think Trump dictates what Israel does, do they take his imput and consider it?, Probably. You on the other hand want to portray it as Trump's opinion dictating to Israel their policies. I seriously doubt that is the situation.

"And with a $716.000,000,000 defense budget, let's by all means concentrate on the damage to our country that might be wreaked by these two women's visit to Palestine via Israel."..... Omar and Talibs visit to Palastine wouldn't hurt U.S. one bit. Israel was put in the position of enforcing their laws or not enforcing them, and any entity that does not enforce their laws weakens those laws and weakens themselves in the process.

Saturday, August 17
Tom Camfield

So we have Donald's travel ban barring most people from several majority-Muslim countries from entering the United States. Then he turns his ugliness on a couple of Muslim members of our own Congress planning to visit Palestine (homeland of one's parents and present residence of her aged grandmother ) and he raises such a loud protest that Israel's prime minister decides to ban them from traveling through en route to grandmother's house. True, they have urged a boycott of Israel but that does not make them terrorists. A boycott has some similarity to Donald's tariff's on China.

Would it be fair to say Donald hates all Muslims? (Other than, as I have said, the Saudis, who fawn all over him and buy weapons of war from us. And have a crown prince who murdered an American journalist —which Donald deigns to condemn.)

Israel, meanwhile has a far right government with a corrupt prime minister and receives billions in U.S. aid, which it uses to buy military armament from us. And it treats Palestinian like dirt in an imperialistic way. Which might explain with its government going along with Donald's making a mountain out of a mole hill—all that annual money. Donald also treats the Palestinians like dirt.

Donald has tried to paint Muslims in general as terrorists in the public mind—and Mexicans as rapists and drug smugglers. Backing up his stereotyping with little more than his endless simplistic shouting.

4 days ago
Justin Hale

Yes, we have a travel ban on some Muslims, same as Obama had.

You just don't have the story right Tom. First off Trump gave his opinion, not a "loud protest" that somehow mind controlled Netanyahu.

"Would it be fair to say Donald hates all Muslims? " I don't share your abilities to see into others hearts, so I can't say who he hates. Would it be fair to say Tom hates Trump?.

4 days ago
Tom Camfield

Let's put it this way. I have way more love for a multitude of others than I have hate for singular Donald. He has hate for a multitude of others and love for only singular Donald.

3 days ago
Justin Hale

I don't know Donald personally enough to pass judgment as you seem to.

3 days ago