White supremacy | Tom Camfield

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Posted 1/28/22

In one of his usual vacuous replies — to my Jan. 13 blog— Justin Hale remarked, “In an interview with Sean Hannity on Thursday evening, President Trump said: "I've said it many …

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White supremacy | Tom Camfield

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In one of his usual vacuous replies — to my Jan. 13 blog — Justin Hale remarked, “In an interview with Sean Hannity on Thursday evening, President Trump said: "I've said it many times, let me be clear again, I condemn the KKK [Ku Klux Klan]. I condemn all white supremacists. I condemn the Proud Boys.”

There are many things wrong with that statement, and one need look no further than back when Donald thought he owned the country in 2017 and his “both sides” remarks following the “Unite the Right” demonstration in Charlottesville, Virginia.
The killing of peace activist Heather Heyer and the near death of a badly beaten young Black man. It’s all still readily available on the Internet.

Speech writers quickly amended Trump’s initial remarks in an attempt to make them more palatable to the pubic. It didn’t work then and it doesn’t work now.

And this same local troll is forever finding fault with the mainstream media (“MSM”) for reporting to the populace what’s going on — and has been doing so since the birth of our democratic government during the closing years of the 18th century . . .

The Associated Press (Lisa Mascaro) reported Jan. 20, “Voting legislation that Democrats and civil rights leaders say is vital to protecting democracy collapsed Wednesday when two senators, as expected, refused to join their own party in changing Senate rules to overcome a Republican filibuster after a raw, emotional debate . .

“Despite a day of debate and speeches that often carried echoes of an earlier era when the Republican filibuster was deployed by opponents of civil rights legislation, Democrats could not persuade holdout Senators Kyrsten Siena of Arizona and Joe Manchin of West Virginia to change the Senate procedures on this one bill and allow a simple majority to advance it. . . “

So-called Democrats Siena and Manchin voted with the Republicans as the “Freedom to Vote John R. Lewis Act” failed 52-48. A tie vote would have been broken by Vice President Kamala Harris.
The bill passed in the House. it would have made Election Day a national holiday, ensured access to early voting and mail-in ballots and enable the Justice Department to intervene in states with a history of voters interference — and made other such changes

Republican states meanwhile are obviously passing current laws making it more difficult for Blacks and others to vote — by consolidating polling places, requiring certain types of polling-place identification, etc.

I agree with President Joe Biden that opponents to the Lewis voting bill are”segregationists”. . . which is merely a gentle synonym for “racists.”

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  • Justin Hale

    "And this same local troll is forever finding fault with the mainstream media (“MSM”) for reporting to the populace what’s going on"..... A good portion of what the MSM such as CNN, NYT, WaPo, NPR present is mostly opinion or commentary, not news, and since you agree with their opinion/commentary you drink their kool-aid.

    Since you brought it up, regarding the “both sides” issue. Did one side have only "good" people and the other "bad people"? Not likely, in any group of people, you are going to find "good", "bad" and all manner of people. Trump said that there were good people on both sides and to you that makes him a supporter of the proud boys? even though he said outright that he condemns them.

    "WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Americans' trust in the media to report the news fully, accurately, and fairly has edged down four percentage points since last year to 36%, making this year's reading the second lowest in Gallup's trend."(https://news.gallup.com/poll/355526/americans-trust-media-dips-second-lowest-record.aspx)..... Seems like I'm not alone in my opinion of the MSM.....

    Regulating the election process for the most part is determined by the individual states, not the Federal government. I've never had a problem voting, I never knew anyone who did, have you? I haven't heard one state official say that their elections were so messed up, that they needed the Federal government to come in and fix things.

    Friday, January 28, 2022 Report this

  • Thomas Camfield

    Let's not write off the murder of Heather Heyer as normal—or forget Jan. 6, 2021, as if it had never happened.

    They're just part of the ugly mess left in the wake of Donald Trump.

    Sunday, January 30, 2022 Report this

  • Thomas Camfield

    “Justin:” You forgot The Seattle Times, The Associated Press and various other major reporters of the news that both Marge and I draw upon. Wikipedia also, which comments: “The Associated Press (AP) is an American non-profit news agency headquartered in New York City. Founded in 1846, it operates as a cooperative unincorporated association. Its members are U.S. newspapers and broadcasters. News reports that it distributes to its members and customers are produced in English, Spanish, and Arabic. The AP has earned 56 Pulitzer Prizes, including 34 for photography, since the award was established in 1917. . .’”

    One sees AP credit lines in the Times on a regular basis (and also other major newspapers).

    Sunday, January 30, 2022 Report this

  • MargeS

    So the chant "stop the steal" was just an hallucination? Trump is only supporting Republican candidates who carry on his "Chant" as though it came from on high. Your continued question "I've never had a problem voting, I never knew anyone who did, have you?" Then whats up with Trumps continued contention that the 2020 Election was stolen. Republicans could vote, they just didn't have as many votes as Democrats. That's how it works.

    Sunday, January 30, 2022 Report this

  • Justin Hale

    "Let's not write off the murder of Heather Heyer as normal.....

    "Let's not write off the murder of Ashli Babbitt as normal!

    Sunday, January 30, 2022 Report this

  • Justin Hale

    If there are no problems with our elections then why the need for the Federal government to take control of our elections?

    Sunday, January 30, 2022 Report this

  • MargeS

    The insurrections are the ones who attempted to thwart our voting laws by trying to overthrow the election and "Stop the Steal". Trump is responsible for that. Otherwise the States had no problems counting the votes.

    Monday, January 31, 2022 Report this

  • Justin Hale

    Marge, when you call the mob riot at the Capitol (1/6) an "insurrection" you are repeating the lie that the MSM has put into your head. I understand that "rioters" doesn't have the trigger appeal that "insurrectionist" does but tell me of the 725 people who have been arrested for their part in the 1/6 riot at the Capitol how many have been charged with "insurrection"?

    We've already beat this dead horse enough.....

    "States had no problems counting the votes."..... You don't seem to grasp the difference between counting a vote and verifying that that vote is legal.

    "Authorities in Indianapolis discovered more than 1,200 counterfeit state driver’s licenses in three shipments that were arriving from Hong Kong. Officials said the fake IDs were for more than 20 different states, and most were for college-age students." How many of those fake IDs could have been used to register to vote?

    Monday, January 31, 2022 Report this

  • Thomas Camfield

    As a reader who contacts me via another method wrote, in part: "I like how an old white guy in one of the most progressive states in the country says, 'I’ve never had a problem voting.' Like it is somehow evidence that voter suppression doesn’t exist in this country."

    Meanwhile . . . Dennis Anstine worked with me at The Leader back around the ‘70s or so, and I always thought that his parents showed considerable restraint in not naming him Frank. With a Justin Hale (“Just Inhale”) long active as chief troll in this forum, I’m surprised we haven’t yet had a Frank Anstine or a Frank N. Stein.

    After me, the second Camfield son was named Richard (****); and when a third son arrived a couple of years later, my father suggested naming him Harry. But my mother quickly recognized the reference to “Tom, **** and Harry” and put her foot down. Generally used in mildly derogatory contexts (i.e. “He didn't want every Tom, ****, and Harry knowing their business “) the phrase suggests a large number of ordinary or undistinguished people. The third Camfield son was finally named Ronald Harry.

    The fourth was named Frederick (Ted), received his Phd in hydraulic engineering at Stanford U. and was secretary-general for 12 years of IAPSO (International Organization of Physical Sciences of the Oceans). He also taught at the University of Delaware before joining the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers,

    All four boys were graduates of PTHS and received degrees at various universities. My mother

    was from a large poverty-ridden family and had to quit school part way through back in thr mid-'20s. She was a great believer in education.

    Monday, January 31, 2022 Report this

  • MargeS

    in·sur·rec·tion

    /ˌinsəˈrekSH(ə)n/

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    noun

    noun: insurrection; plural noun: insurrections

    a violent uprising against an authority or government.

    "the insurrection was sa***ely put down"

    Pretty much the definition of what happened on January 6. Trump should be charged as the leader of an insurrection against the U.S. government. He brags he has $100 million dollars in his campaign chest, he does realize he can't use campaign money to hire lawyers to get him out of jail, maybe not.

    Monday, January 31, 2022 Report this

  • Justin Hale

    That's right Tom, I've never had a problem voting, never knew anyone who did, I asked if you have and you didn't respond to my question, nor has M.S. So where is all of this voter suppression you speak of? Show me a case where a legally registered voter was denied that right, I can show you plenty of cases of voter fraud, or at least the ones that were caught by the authorities, no doubt there were plenty that were not discovered.

    Monday, January 31, 2022 Report this

  • Justin Hale

    Call it whatever you want Marge, Trump will never be charged with "insurrection".

    Monday, January 31, 2022 Report this

  • MargeS

    "On Thursday, only a day after Marco Rubio took to the Senate floor to mock the idea that “our government last year was almost overthrown by a guy wearing a Viking hat and speedos,” the department released an indictment charging the founder and leader of the Oath Keepers militia and 10 other people with seditious conspiracy. The indictment alleged an armed “plot to oppose by force the 2020 lawful transfer of presidential power” and “take control of the Capitol” on Jan. 6 to prevent the certification of the Electoral College vote in favor of Joe Biden." Politico, Jan 6, 2022

    Seditious conspiracy is a crime in various jurisdictions of conspiring against the authority or legitimacy of the state. As a form of sedition, it has been described as a serious but lesser counterpart to treason, targeting activities that do not actually attack the state but are hostile to its authority.

    A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.

    So these people have been charged with sedition. Trump's actions on Jan 6 and before that would fall under the "failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition"

    If they don't charge them with treason, or insurrection, sedition is applicable to these people's actions.

    Tuesday, February 1, 2022 Report this

  • Justin Hale

    Out of the thousands who trespassed onto the Capitol property and the 750 or so who entered the Capitol 11 are being charged with sedition and in your mind that makes the entire event an "insurrection"? Wouldn't that be like calling all of the BLM marchers/demonstrators murderous looters because a minority turned to violence and looting? I have no doubt that there were some people who broke into the Capitol who had a seditious ideology, obviously, thankfully they were a small minority of that mob. The entire event was not an insurrection as you and the biased MSM like to call it.

    Remember, being charged does not equal being convicted unless you live in a world where you are guilty until proven innocent. In the last case where the government charged sedition against a militia group in Michigan, the government lost the case.

    Tuesday, February 1, 2022 Report this

  • MargeS

    So far 178 people charged in the Jan 6 insurrection have pleaded guilty. 750 have been charged, the FBI is still trying to identify those who were at the insurrection.

    So far the Justice Department has also brought conspiracy charges against about 40 defendants, most of whom prosecutors say have ties to far-right extremist groups such as the Proud Boys or the Oath Keepers.

    "The Justice Department remains committed to holding all Jan. 6 perpetrators, at any level, accountable under law — whether they were present that day or were otherwise criminally responsible for the assault on our democracy," he said. "We will follow the facts wherever they lead." Merrick Garland

    As to Trump he's a defendant in several lawsuits brought by either police officers or lawmakers in connection with Jan. 6. And the Democratic-led House select committee investigating the Capitol riot is also examining Trump's actions on and before that day. Let's hope justice will finally be done.

    Thursday, February 3, 2022 Report this

  • Justin Hale

    "So far 178 people charged".....Charged with what? Here's a link (https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases?combine=insurrection) check it out and then tell us how many people were charged with "insurrection". Until last Thursday it was 0, but what the hey, you keep on repeating the mantra "insurrection, insurrection, insurrection" like the MSM tells you to.

    "Let's hope justice will finally be done."..... Do you believe justice was done when the Senate acquitted Trump on the impeachment charges?

    Friday, February 4, 2022 Report this