Where is the practical plan?

Posted 7/17/19

The immigration crisis at our nation’s border shows no sign of going away. Neither the Trump administration that has created it, nor the Democratic candidates who are sympathetic to the …

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Where is the practical plan?

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The immigration crisis at our nation’s border shows no sign of going away. Neither the Trump administration that has created it, nor the Democratic candidates who are sympathetic to the refugees’ plights have a practical solution. What can Americans agree on?

It’s impossible/unfeasible to house hundreds of thousands of people in facilities for extended periods. It’s unconscionable to separate children from their parents. It’s untenable to simply open borders and let hundreds of thousands of people enter the country every month.

What can the U.S. do differently?

Develop a Marshall Plan for Central America, from which most of these refugees are fleeing.

Work to create an environment there where they are safe and have opportunities to stay. This will take time, but will pay off enormously for everyone. Put our “processing” facilities in these countries, so applicants can remain there while awaiting their decisions.

Greatly increase immigration staff/judges so that immigration decisions are accelerated.

It is the immensity of the problem that has stymied solutions that address the humanitarian and practical issues. No wall and no increase in border housing facilities and improvement of their conditions will permanently solve this crisis.

John Delaney
Port Townsend

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Justin Hale

How many Billions of our tax dollars have gone into Central America over the years, and what have we got to show for it? Obviously sending $$$ to those countries has only encouraged thousands to flee those nations and follow the money north.

If Congress wants to build more border processing centers to facilitate Legal migration, fine. At the same time we have to secure our borders from those entering Illegally, and when someone enters Illegally they should be loaded on a bus and backed up to the border and sent back to where they came from, this program of catch and release is total BS, and the burden of housing and caring for Illegals is total BS.

Wednesday, July 17, 2019
Tom Camfield

Anyone notice in the real news this morning that Trump is shifting $41.9 million destined for humanitarian aid in Central America to the opposition party in beleaguered oil-rich Venezuela? Just going to hand if over to some guy named Juan Guaido. Graft for everybody! This pretty well wipes out the last vestiges of an Obama program to improve life in Central America to the point that residents there would not be inclined to rush to our southern border. Trump already had cut designated funds for that dramatically. And one might assume that played a role in the northward trek of many Northern Triangle emigrants now being treated like animals at our southern border..

Anti-Obama of course, underlies countless destructive moves by the buffoon now ini the White House. And you can't ell me that Trump isn't still pandering Big Oil interests with a greedy eye on Venezuelan

oil fields

Wednesday, July 17, 2019
John Delaney

Justin, I like your idea of billions. That much is surely needed, annually. Where would the money come from? The Defense Budget, for this surely is a national defense issue. Scrap a B1 bomber every year and use that money to improve the stability and living standards in Central America. That would keep us safer and the world better off.

Go to the U.S. Global Leadership Coalition website to see how this approach really pays off--for everyone. Simply ignoring the causes, and telling everyone to go back where they came from, is not a solution. Trump's solution, and apparently yours, is a "gated-community" one: we're safe inside, the rest of you are on your own because you're losers. I just wonder how much you've traveled and seen how the majority of people in the world have nothing. To keep pouring money into our walls and defenses (the gated-community) won't work.

Wednesday, July 17, 2019
Justin Hale

Juan Guaido is not just "some guy" he is the President of the National Assembly of Venezuela.

"Several Venezuelan NGOs, such as Foro Penal Venezolano, Súmate, Voto Joven [es], the Venezuelan Electoral Observatory and the Citizen Electoral Network, expressed their concern over the irregularities of the electoral schedule, including the lack of the Constituent Assembly's competencies to summon the elections, impeding participation of opposition political parties, and the lack of time for standard electoral functions.[11] Because of this, the European Union,[12][13] the Organization of American States, the Lima Group and countries including Australia and the United States rejected the electoral process.[14][15] However, countries including China, South Africa, Cuba, Iran, Egypt, Russia, Syria, Turkey and others recognized the election result." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Venezuelan_presidential_election)

Why are people leaving Venezuela? I know that as a devoted Trump hater you want to blame Trump, and as usual, you are wrong.

"Venezuela has the largest proven oil reserves in the world—larger than Saudi Arabia’s—and was for decades one of the powerhouses of world oil production. But Mr. Maduro’s policies are making it an increasingly minor producer. Today Venezuela produces only a 10th of what Saudi Arabia does. Last year the U.S. added more new oil production than Venezuela’s total output. North Dakota now produces more oil than Venezuela.

The industry has been deteriorating since President Hugo Chávez launched a political takeover of the state oil company, PdVSA, in 2002-03. This led to a drastic fall in investment, a huge exodus of industry professionals, decay in wells and infrastructure, and theft of equipment and materials. Under Mr. Maduro, who took over after Chavez’s death in 2013, the decline has accelerated. In 2015, he began to hand control of PdVSA to the military, and in 2017 appointed a general to be both company president and energy minister." (https://www.wsj.com/articles/maduro-wrecked-venezuelas-oil-industry-11549325002)

As usual, Trump-hating half-truths and distortions.

Wednesday, July 17, 2019
Justin Hale

John D.

I'm not a big fan of our bloated military spending, but I'm less of a fan of sending more of our tax dollars to Central American countries that are overrun by violent gangs and political corruption. Maybe you haven't noticed but there are plenty of our fellow citizens that could use some aid. If you want to send some of your money to Central America nations I'm sure you can find an organization that will gladly take your money.

It's not my job to solve the world's problems, my job is to take care of myself, so I'm not a burden on anyone else. Next, my job is to help my family as much as I can, and then my fellow Citizens when I can. You want to solve the problems of El Salvador, Guatemala, Mexico, go for it.

Did you notice how many new citizens were sworn into our "gated-community" on the 4th?

Wednesday, July 17, 2019
John Delaney

This is the 21st century, Justin, not Medieval times when everyone rushed inside a castle to protect themselves from the approaching hordes. Imagine if the wealthy, resource-rich states in our country took that approach and told the poorer states to just disappear.

Seriously, I do think you view the world from your log cabin and simply wish others' plights would go away and leave you alone. The irony is that doing the obvious things, like helping improve the conditions of others, would accomplish exactly that. Our own self-interest demands it, not just our humanitarian values.

And I agree, there is enough in our "bloated military spending" to spread money around here at home as well, where it is greatly needed. But that takes leadership we are currently lacking.

Thursday, July 18, 2019
Justin Hale

J.D.

I couldn't think of a better discriptor than " approaching hordes" when I see the caravans marching towards our southern border, illegally rushing the borders of Mexico and eventually sneaking into our country. I just heard that there was a poll in Mexico and 55% say send the illegals back to where they came.

" Imagine if the wealthy, resource-rich states in our country took that approach and told the poorer states to just disappear. "..... In case you're not aware of it there exists in every state in this nation gated communities, try sneaking into Broadmore, or the Highlands or Kala Point(sometimes) and see what you get. And don't foget that many of our illustrious "leaders" live in homes that are "gated" and patrolled by armed guards.

I am not anti-immigrant, in my earlier life my family sponsored a young man from Poland and a family from Viet-Nam. What I am anti is people who disrespect our laws and sneak into our country illegally.

And all of the Billions we (U.S.) have sent to the Northern triangle have done nothing to improve the conditions there, the caravans of migrants prove it.

You and I agree that our Congress spends too much on the Military and not enough on the Veterans and social services here at home.

Thursday, July 18, 2019
Justin Hale

Marge S.

I don't know what radio stations you listen to but they certainly don't reflect what I hear on NPR or CBS on a daily basis. From your past postings/comments it's obvious that you are a Trump hater, maybe where hatred is concerned maybe you should look in the mirror.

Thursday, July 18, 2019
Justin Hale

Oops! Wrong article......nevermind.

Thursday, July 18, 2019
Tom Camfield

I don't believe anyone's trying to blame Donald for Venezuela's situation, or even for throwing some money at it. It's just that he's taking the millions away from an Obama project aimed at bettering life in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador. Donald already had begun cutting funding a year or two ago from that project, aimed at assisting and encouraging suffering citizens of that Northern Triangle to remain there instead of trekking thousands of miles to seek a better life via our southern border.

There were reports that the program had been doing some good before Donald got involved. And now he's diverting remaining funding and sending it to another country where the masses also are suffering, a country coincidentally sitting on a vast accumulation of crude oil, and the refugees from Central America just keep coming.

Donald's famous "gut instinct" and knee-jerk foreign policy is screwing up this country at every turn. His tweets and arrogant executive orders are a farce.

Monday, July 22, 2019
Justin Hale

Someone once said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. It's clear to me and President Trump that all of the Billions we have sent down south to the northern triangle has been for naught. What are the main reasons migrants from that area give for seeking asylum, corrupt government and violent gangs in their homelands, sounds like S.Hole countries to me. I would rather those imigrants grow a pair and fight the corruption and gangs in their homelands.

In supporting Guaido in Venezuela Trump is doing the right thing, are you going to support Maduro? So what would your policy be for Venezuela? What are the Democrats supporting?

Monday, July 22, 2019
Tom Camfield

I'm not so sure what was sent to the Northern Triangle under the Obama plan ever reached the point of thousands of millions. I do believe that plan had a definite motive, a positive purpose. And I certainly don't agree with blaming the victims for their plight in these Central American countries. Trump's pretty much trying to scapegoat Mexico somehow, what with their all being Latinos. And he is turning us to get involved in one more nation, Venezuela, with something having his name rather than Obama's name on it. That's something he's obsessed with in whichever direction one turns.

Regime change in Syria has been long overdue, but that's too big for Donald to contend with in any major way; and, besides, Russia is involved there. So we'll mess with Venezuela instead.

However, I don't really object to financial and humanitarian aid to Venezuela. It's that I think there's more financial opportunity in re-allocating a piece of our some $750 billion military budget than in cutting remaining ties with Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador for a mere 40-some million. We also could utilize some sort of actual military incursion--but, again, that would just upset Russia. There must be some kind of executive order Donald can come up with to deal in any way with whatever strikes his personal fancy. Maybe it'll come to him as he ponders his club selection for the approach shot to the sixth green at one of his posh golf courses

There's also the way in which Donald chooses to dispense, grudgingly, humanitarian aid. He's a typical dirty-trick Republican, trusting to a short public memory. But many of us recall how he cut to Palestine via a United Nations program. "United Nations," a world emulation of our own United States. In both realms, Donald's crazed over not having individual control. If you think our oblivious voting public hasn't created a would-be dictator, think again. HIs America "uber alles" certainly has a Hitleresque ring to it.

Lord only know where our Republican-controlled Senate is these days—hunkered down en route to the 2020 election, apparently. "McConnell and the Wimps," good name for a rock-music group.

Tuesday, July 23, 2019
Justin Hale

Tom, here is a site that explains Obama's budgeting for C.A.. (https://www.wola.org/analysis/obamas-billion-dollar-aid-request-to-central-america-how-has-it-changed/)

I understand that you will oppose anything Trump does regarding Venezuela, so once again I ask you what the Partisan Democrat Trump haters suggest for our policy regarding Venezuela.

There's an old saying that goes something like " the only thing necessary for evil to succeed is for good people to stand by and do nothing". This is how I see the mess in C.A..... So we, America, are supposed to take in and support all these good migrants from C.A and what is left of those nations they fled>? SH nations.

Tuesday, July 23, 2019