Anti-trans press conference swarmed by protesters

Posted 8/17/22

More than 200 people crowded Pope Marine Park and both sides of Water Street in downtown Port Townsend Monday evening in response to the continuing controversy over a transgender YMCA employee at …

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Anti-trans press conference swarmed by protesters

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More than 200 people crowded Pope Marine Park and both sides of Water Street in downtown Port Townsend Monday evening in response to the continuing controversy over a transgender YMCA employee at Mountain View Pool.

Port Townsend resident Julie Jaman has been at the center of national media interest since she confronted the YMCA staffer and was subsequently banned from the pool.

Her cause has since been championed by conservative media outlets and others who have been upset about the YMCA allowing the staff member to continue working at the Mountain View Pool.

A press conference called by Jaman’s supporters Monday across from Port Townsend City Hall was quickly overwhelmed by people supporting the YMCA employee and the transgender community.

While the standoff remained mostly civil throughout, tensions slowly rose as the pro-trans crowd surrounded the speakers and distracted from the speeches with chants, loud musical instruments, and a brigade of bikes adorned with Pride flags.

Chants of “Trans women are women” from the massive crowd were met with “We want sex-based rights” from the Jaman supporters.

Tensions between the two sides continued to rise after Jaman gave a speech in front of the crowd. Demonstrators locked arms in a semi-circle as the pro-trans crowd grew louder and closer.

As least one demonstrator was detained by officers from the Port Townsend Police Department and the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office, who had around 10 members of law enforcement monitoring the situation, and had blocked off a section of Water Street.

Eventually after an hour of speeches, chants, and arguments, anti-trans activist Amy Sousa, Jaman, and their supporters retreated from the park while being escorted by police.

Counter-protesters celebrated with tunes of “Y.M.C.A” by the Village People and “Born This Way” by Lady Gaga.

The protests and discussions on transgender individuals in public restrooms stemmed from Jaman’s encounter with a trans YMCA employee in late July.

Jaman was banned from the pool for asking the transgender woman if she had a penis, then started yelling at her while in a pool locker room, according to reports from Port Townsend police and the Olympic Peninsula YMCA.

Since that incident, stories have circulated on conservative media sites including Fox News, the New York Post, and Breitbart, with the outlets misrepresenting the trans community and painting the employee as a “groomer” or “predator.”

After the Olympic Peninsula  YMCA received threatening messages and became worried about the safety of employees, the organization closed Mountain View Pool last week.

Both the city of Port Townsend and Jefferson County have since passed transgender proclamations to reiterate their support of the trans community.

The proclamations, adopted Monday, noted increased violence directed toward LGBTQ+ individuals in recent years.

County Commissioner Kate Dean led the county’s effort to show its support.

“The fact is the YMCA is following state law in allowing people to use the facilities that they most identify with, and we support that,” she said during the commissioners’ meeting Monday.

“I am very saddened that trans people in our community are being threatened and treated poorly, as well as the staff at the YMCA,” Dean added. “It’s important that we express our support to the trans community and to the YMCA.”

According to police records obtained via a public records request, pool staff reported getting multiple threatening messages, with one tweet about “shooting workers” and a voicemail stating, “I’m coming for you.”

The Port Townsend Police Department has also logged a large number of negative messages, with most coming from out of state.

According to a police report, the department has received around 50 messages over the past week.

Mountain View Pool was also closed Monday and Tuesday, according to YMCA staff.

Both sides continued to press their views following the press conference, with the public comment portion of Monday’s city council meeting being consumed by the pool controversy.

The majority of commenters in attendance were in favor of the YMCA employee.

“Seeing the backlash and harm that Julie Jaman has put our community in, specifically the trans employee, is absolutely unacceptable,” said local resident Moe Wolf. “I’ve spoken to the trans person and it’s clear that they had a very traumatic experience with Julie … Julie was threatening other employees at the YMCA and this has happened multiple times.”

Though Jaman has denied having any prior conflicts with pool staff, YMCA officials have said that she has repeatedly violated the Y’s code of conduct in the past.

“I am writing in support of the city and the Y on the matter of equality of all people! We all deserve the rights and respect that should belong to everyone,” said Jan Ellis via written comment. “We should not be subjected to the intimidation tactics of a small noisy group of sad, misguided, fearful people who think their opinions (not facts) are more valid than the majority of fact based laws and human understanding! I am glad I live in an area that stands up for all citizens.”

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  • Justin Hale

    You know you're in a truly sick society when people don't know or respect the difference between men and women.

    Wednesday, August 17 Report this

  • Dcc

    Give it a rest.

    Wednesday, August 17 Report this

  • Justin Hale

    ecorep, No, "we" haven't accepted that sxual deviants can choose whatever locker room they want. Some of us believe that men are men, and women are women, each deserving the respect of their private areas, such as swimming pool shower rooms.

    Wednesday, August 17 Report this

  • MargeS

    This is a problem for some. Not all. Give it a rest, you don't know what your talking about.

    Wednesday, August 17 Report this

  • Justin Hale

    If some people have a problem with their sxual identity that is their problem, they have no special right to violate accepted societal norms, such as shower rooms for men and shower rooms for women.

    Thursday, August 18 Report this

  • greggk47

    The liazae faire that characterized Port Townsend in the past is tragically gone. We now are endorsing positions that some residence may not agree with. While passing ordinances that include being a sanctuary city, being a bicycle friendly town, not allowing plastic sacks, transgender welcoming, housing for homeless etc. are legitimate; announcing that Port Townsend wants to be known as a city that is characterized by these endor*****ts is exclusive by nature. 2-300 hundred people showing up hardly represents the " Port Townsend" position.

    Thursday, August 18 Report this

  • HarveyW

    My God Marge. It is you who don't know what you are talking about. There is so much more going on here. The Leader headline is very misleading and intentionally polarizing. This was not an "anti-trans" event.

    Free speech was stopped. Police did little or nothing as elder female neighbors were attacked who have concerns that they only want to be discussed openly. Distortion of that is the way to stop discussion.

    And violence.

    Discussion, and a paper not part of the control here is no longer the world of PT. Far more than "conservative" news providers are taking note. Appointed Mayor Faber is an international joke due to his twitter account that says he has to be as mayor a pervert and deviant.

    Among other things. Screen shots here

    https://mandystadtmiller.substack.com/p/rabbitholed-46-why-is-self-described

    You can start with the link below if you don't want to be misled on a much more involved subject. Or keep it simple and believe the Leader that has a history of removing comments and entire articles. At least take a look at the photos. Very different than the Leaders.

    Make up your own mind after taking some time to investigate this for yourself.

    https://www.porttownsendfreepress.com/2022/08/18/reporting-from-the-frontlines-of-the-woke-battlefield/

    Unless you are programmed not to think for yourself and believe only the Leader, here are many other Free Press articles that give much better detail on what occurred on day one with Julie, and what concerns are. Comments especially are much more thought out with few exceptions.

    But anyone not drinking this kool aid is a transphobe. I am not. I have a wide variety of people I know and have for years. They all can think.

    The political wagons have circled. Facts threaten. I am pro trans and pro biological woman. This will always be distorted to create victims. Research and think. Or not.

    Thursday, August 18 Report this

  • HarveyW

    For the record and for all who might read and are still unaware of what is happening now that started years ago with appointed Mayors. I do not take speaking publicly lightly. I continue to move irreplicable things out of Port Townsend

    Corrupted Council- For the record once again.

    Instead of bringing in new pieces I made or bringing in artwork I purchase and feature by other Northwest artisans, today as sound business practice I have removed my most valuable and irreplaceable artwork from my 26 year business within the decaying wreckage of Port Townsend, tinder dry by design.

    A large abstract Eagle carved by Peg Lawrence who is 101 years old and still drinking some Jack Daniels every day in assisted living is now in hiding. A mask by a First Nations woman artisan called Mother and Daughter is in a safe house. Daughter sits atop mother’s head with an umbilical cord attaching them. Many other pieces made by artisans we have shared with neighbors and visitors remain in jeopardy, needing to be sold to pay rent until I can liquidate everything and be gone from Faberville. I have had to select out my favorite children to save from what has been set in motion.

    We all know David Faber has failed to unite and find common ground. He has no clue what he should do as a “Leader”. He has in fact chosen a side and divided. Purposefully. With a discriminating proclamation.

    None ever for people of Color. None ever for the Native population that was here. None for any group. Except now. A proclamation on how you need to think and what you need to believe. Duh David, most of not all I know treat all with respect. Me thinks thou doth state the obvious to cover tracks and obscure your own ongoing discrimination, now against a grandmother.

    It’s Faber’s Government mind control. Orwell would be proud of all the time-tested techniques this “leader” employees.

    Leader is an empty term and name as the local paper is now showing once again. What began with Cherry Street, parking chaos, the FWPDA, then magic mess tent madness, and now Faber and PTB’s version of Women are the N***** of the World, Faber, Council, City Manager and City Attorney light a match. In absolute unison with the Y and everyone on the extended “team” from Main Street to Chamber. Those women will not think or complain. Soul sucking job security.

    Do look up John Lennon and Women are the …… of the world. Meant to be shocking then, relevant now. Think it through trans folk. When you are just another “woman” how will you be treated? Check out history. Hell, look at right now.

    The next event put on by those women not willing to give away their biological uniqueness earned over thousands of years will be the gasoline. Faber stands with the lit match, with help. The test has been completed.

    It is a formula. Like so much else over the last many years. Does Faber understand it? Hard to tell. Same result either way.

    I have been directly threatened on record and called “the enemy”. That was deleted from the Free Press. I don’t dispute the call to remove threats. Perhaps someday a separate link to that would be educational. Attributes and ideas I don’t have were used to justify the threat. Over many years, not the first.

    It has to be black and white. No discussion. The enemy. No hate indeed.

    It does make one stop and think. Then hum “The Boxer”. It is genetic for some to still remain. White cells.

    No Grandmothers or females were involved in the threat.

    Friday, August 19 Report this

  • HarveyW

    For some reason the full letter did not paste.... continued

    Your grandparents really do love you. Whatever your outward ***. They love you from the inside out. They don’t want you to change a thing about yourself. You will always grow and evolve as is meant to be. They love you through every step and misstep. Shoving around grandma and grandpa is the lowest. No Hate indeed.

    That’s another thing Faber brought home for all. Shoving around grandma verbally and physically and politically.

    The police with the FBI trained chief have their orders. One officer who walked away was featured in a Leader story about his African heritage where police never came. I commented back then that this was also the case here with parking, or at the fairgrounds where some died. Welcome to PT I said, knowing his future. If he hung around long enough.

    Yesterday I photographed all the inventory I have invested my life savings into to do***ent what may be torn apart by frenzied people chanting meaningless chants that Appointed Mayor Faber and all of Council gave life to. Like Seattle and Portland. How is that? By failing a grandmother and village elder who simply wanted and expected her own and other women’s privacy from men of any sort while showering at the Y.

    They flipped the script.

    Radical hater is the tag. Chants keep some from thinking things through. Perhaps an effect of the educational system. Perhaps not.

    This is relevant. That male, they, them, person in the women’s shower and all others also should be respected. As with mess tents and parking, none above others. But we are now Orwell equal. Re designing spaces is the cure. The wedge is a weapon. The weapon is deployed by Faber and Council with City Manager and City Attorney assisting.

    All recorded for history. Will anyone be left who can care?

    I have do***ented for the record over 8 years of financial losses to this community, or what once was a community, into the millions of dollars from lost parking and business access to the sound of crickets from Council. I am sick of it. You are sick of hearing of it. It is the ember to today’s flame. You turned your cheek. The slaps came harder and harder. As per Orwell.

    Some profited from the chaos and damage unleashed. Still is unleashed and not dealt with as “recovery” is the buzz word. Doublethink. Watch Mauro, Council, and Faber do it regularly.

    Then came mess tents and special interests being served. Discriminating, yes discriminating against other businesses in what was a community. Again, costing millions in losses according to The City of Port Townsend’s own ignored studies. The Council does nothing but reward bad choices and double down. Illegal choices.

    Your Appointed Mayor, who is now a world recognized juvenile joke (when you asked the Genie to be famous David you needed to be very specific) and your unqualified compromised City Manager conspired to keep public notice of a city ordinance change regarding mess tents at a minimum. You all know the details. It was just a couple of months ago. Council didn’t seem concerned based on voting for “temporary” tents and not reprimanding the deceit.

    Add the ongoing parking lie. There are no limits, fool. Discrimination. How about this—“Whereas the City of Port Townsend and David Faber don’t care jack **** about you dumb assed tourists and whereas bla bla bla bla therefore be it resolved that you are a chump so observe our phony signage. Welcome to PT. Here is a preferred restaurant list”.

    My taking apart my business today which is a cultural link 46 years in the making starting with less than nothing is in anticipation of looting and damage by the forces that likely will be unleashed by your Appointed Mayor Faber, compromised and unqualified City Manager Mauro, and City Attorney Heidi Greenwood. She is a woman betraying women along with 4 female Council Members. The male fellow Council join them. No clean hands here. None.

    Gee I wish does not count.

    It’s a much bigger cause and effect than simple slogans can drown out.

    Faber’s hollow statement of inclusion for one specific group ignores others. You discriminate Faber and Council, easily shown and recorded for the future. What of the trans people that need to park? Oh.

    Will you David Faber now issue a proclamation condemning the attempted silencing of free speech and violence that occurred against biological women as the Appointed Mayor, City Council, City Manager, and City Attorney staged a one-sided show in the hallowed halls of the City Council Chambers? A one sided show.

    The police with the FBI trained chief have their orders. All seen in real time and now preserved forever. One officer who walked away as things got violent had a Leader story about his African nation heritage where police never came. I commented there and then that this was also the case here with parking, or at the fairgrounds. Now he is doing the same, just following orders.

    Council must recall the juvenile you appointed Mayor, or at least try. Get ready to behold Port Townsend becoming what Seattle and Portland have become. Its already here. Just a little harder to see for some. It will be obvious soon, after the spell cast by Faber and the Y, which he and Council seem to have no idea of the scope of.

    Leadership into the abyss.

    Port Townsend has not been pretty for some time. It has just looked that way. For some.

    Remove Faber. Now. Step away from what Sandoval, Stinson and other appointed mayors began, and he continued and now escalates.

    Faber is now the best of the worst. He is a damaging child. With power and a twitter account. Making the City look bad. Very bad.

    Trans rights and understanding? Yes! Biological female rights and understanding? Yes! Both! Just pawns in a nasty game at this late hour.

    Today, I moved some things to safety. As a difficult and sound business decision I begin to have no connection to Port Townsend and protect items that will never be replaced. Not the real PT, the shallow hollow Faber one. Faber being the mascot. So many moving parts.

    Who on Council will stand to recall Faber and issue a proclamation that free speech is not silenced in Port Townsend?

    What do those that seek to silence fear?

    Say it again. Who on Council will stand to recall Faber and issue a proclamation that free speech is not silenced in Port Townsend?

    No discrimination my ass. Threats of many kinds? You bet!

    Faber plays with matches. Council gives him gasoline. All are responsible. But somehow, not. Yet.

    The Free Press might consider mobilizing some of the concerned folk to hand out some of these stories on the street. If Mauro was shaking at the proclamation meeting about damaged image, imagine if most visitors knew of Dirty PT.

    Or not.

    Friday, August 19 Report this

  • Dcc

    Good grief, Harv. Your opinion piece is about two pages too long. Learn some editing skills if you expect people to actually read your latest manifesto.

    Friday, August 19 Report this